Sorry, but I must disagree with you who think Mrozik didn't deserve the DQ for "punching". Yes, there was a scuffle, yes Larson pushed Mrozik, and then Mrozik clearly wound up and delivered a punch to Larson in the mask area. I watched the tape last night several times, and even in slow-motion. From a security person who was standing right in front of the action, and also saw the replay...Mrozik deserved the penalty given. This was NOT a penalty for "fighting" it was a penalty for "punching". This is how the refs are getting around the three-DQ's-and-you're-done fighting penalty. So this DQ, does not count towards any other fighting majors that Mrozik may have. It will accumulate towards the total number of games he must sit out however. While I don't have a rulebook, we have gone over this several times and the rule is: Any punch or attempt to punch an opponent will result in a fighting major penalty and DQ. So, the refs are going easy on most incidents by giving the penalty for "punching" and NOT fighting. I don't agree with this policy and I don't like the new rule about three fighting DQ's and you are done for the season, but that's the way it is. There were lots of calls that Buzz and Ames could have called ON BOTH teams during both games. There was plenty of slashing and cross-checking going on, but Buzz and Ames like to "let 'em play". Every coach evaluates the officials that reffed his games each week, so they do get some input. As for having Shepard watching his refs more closely....I hope he stays away from Mariucci! A couple of series ago, we also had Buzz and Ames, who did a perfectly unremarkable job on Friday night. Then, with Shep in the stands observing on Saturday night...they did a horrible job, so bad that *I* was looking for Shep, myself as I had a few comments for him. :-) I myself have found that most fans see only the stuff the other team does (and this is true of myself), so it is helpful to watch a replay on what you believe is a questionable call. It is always helpful to remember that the refs have a different view from most fans in attendance and the cameras, and I mean that literally. The refs don't see it all, how I wish they could. Just my .02!! -Carol GO Gophers!!! HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.