I've said it before. I'll say it again. Institutional commitment to program, new facility, new coach. Then, maybe, there'll be improvement. They're not getting the players they need, and they're not getting the most of the players they have. They should step up and make the tough moves ($$ for real rink, $$ for a proven Div 1 coach) or go back to D2. -Dave Josselyn HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.