It's interesting that SLU prefers the nickname "Skating Saints" to "Larries". If I had to pick the one that I regard as being potentially more offensive to somebody, I would pick "Saints". I personally don't see why giving a team from a non-denominational university a nickname with religious overtones is any less offensive than the Indian nicknames which are being abandoned by many schools. Please note, I am not stating that I object to either of these nicknames, just that Larries seems more innocuous. (If SLU wants a new mascot, I know where there is a Red Hawk available quite cheaply :-) Ralph Baer RPI '68, '70, '74 HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.