I agree that Miami hasn't been deep beyond two lines, but Miami has consistently been a first-division team under George Gwozdecky and now Mark Mazzolini. In fact, Gwoz won a CCHA championship at Miami about three or four seasons ago. I'd say Miami has earned respect -- and gets it. ---------- In response to Chad's comments about the 'Skins. Mazzolini is a good coach, and can recruit, but it takes more. They don't have a reputation for winning and are therefore weak on the third and fourth lines. Bryan Malcolm Eden Prairie, MN [log in to unmask] HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.