On Fri, 27 Oct 1995, Mike Machnik wrote: One, if the ECAC continued to play 2 games vs each opponent, > that gives teams 2x13=26 games, probably too many for the Ivies. And two, > since neither of the two other Ivies (Penn & Columbia) seem close to > elevating hockey to the ECAC I level, that would mean an imbalance of 8 > non-Ivies vs 6 Ivies - something I'm not sure the Ivies would agree to. I've mentioned this before but not this season :-) Perhaps it is time for the Ivies to go off into the corner and be by themselves with their holier than thou attitude. IMO (no H here since I'm addressing this topic) the HE/ECAC split was caused by just this issue of number of games played. The Ivies are the tail that wags the dog. The operative rule should be NC$$ guidelines. The travel issue for Niagara is another topic entirely, but if the Ivies want their own rules, let them play in their own league. I'm even more fed up than I sound. Arthur Berman BU'74, Harvard '90 HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.