I didn't say you had to be vulgar and degrading did I? Nope, I said it happens and if players are bothered by it they shouldn't be there. Then I pointed out how obscenities were used, in coordination with St. Cloud State's small pep band mind you, at their arena. At some of the Gopher hockey games I attended last year at Mariucci Arena, I don't recall ever hearing long drawn out anti-Canadian chants from the crowd. I DO remember the USA chant at the College Hockey Showcase, and seem to recall that those who did it were drunk. I really don't think saying "USA" is degrading to anyone though. HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.