> However, I do think the ACHA is (in many cases) comparable to NCAA > Division II and Division III hockey. Here are a few more instances (in > addition to the ones I posted earlier) I found on the Internet to support my > claim: > 11/ /93 Illinois 9 Lake Forest 8 A last place team in the NCHA. > 1/8/94 UW-Stout 6 St. Norbert 2 A next to last place team in the NCHA. > 2/19/94 Penn State 4 Buffalo St. 3 Buffalo St. is actually a very good example against you. Two years ago, they were a very good ACHA team. Then they moved up to the Div. III varsity level in the SUNYAC. Although they have not embarassed themeselves, they have struggled posting NCAA records of 4-11-4 and 4-18-3. > 1/4/95 UW-Stout 4 Amherst 2 They only won 6 games last year and are near the bottom of the ECAC East. > 1/6/95 Penn State 4 Mercyhurst 5 (OT) Definitely an impressive performance. > 2/10/95 UW-Stout 5 Hamline 1 > 2/16/95 UW-Stout 4 Hamline 3 A next to last place team in the MIAC which is considerable behind the NCHA. The MIAC gets an automatic bid to the playoffs, but their representative is always seeded last and almost always losses. Beating Hamline, who only had 4 victories last year, is no mean feat. Let's see how they do against better teams: Gustavus Adolpus - 6 UW-Stout - 2 (A .500 MIAC team.) Bethel - 8 UW-Stout - 5 (Anything but a better team. They were dead last Bethel - 2 UW-Stout - 2 in the MIAC with only 2 NCAA wins.) > 2/17/95 Penn State 11 Scranton 1 NEVER, EVER compare anybody to Scranton! They are by far the worst hockey team in all the land. They regularly get plasted by double digits (Buffalo St. beat them last year 16-0!!), their goalie regularly faces 80-90 shots, other teams actually stop shooting on their net in the third period because the score gets so out of hand. They are so bad, that one year Cortland, a .500 team, sent their JV team down to play them and still beat Scranton, 4-1! Using this as an example actually disproves your argument. :-) The bottom line is club hockey is great for the schools, players, fans, and the sport. And, it is certainly no surpise that it generates great excitement on some campuses, after all hockey is a great sport, but in general it cannot be compared to even the Div. II/III level. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Russell Jaslow |Official Contact - Potsdam College Hockey|My employer Eastman Kodak Company | Potsdam Bears - 1981 and 1986 NCAA Div. |has nothing Rochester, New York | III National Basketball Champions and |to do with [log in to unmask] winners of 60 consecutive games! |my drivel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- HOCKEY-L is for discussion of college ice hockey; send information to [log in to unmask], The College Hockey Information List.