In response to Ralph Baer's comments on Phil Latrielle, I will actually admit I saw him play at the Field House twice, I believe, between 1960 and 1964. His goal to assist ratio is astronomical when even the best snipers have a ratio slightly above one, his is about 7 to 1! My memory about him is faint (what else is new :-)) but I got the distinct impression that his huge point total was mostly against inferior competition and regardless, he was going to be their All-American and they "fed" him whenever they could even in losing efforts. He was a good skater and good shooter who would have been good on any team, but I think Middlebury tried to emphasize his stats. IMHO, Bob Brinkworth was a much better all around skater with significant lower stats owing to RPI's much more difficult schedule. Of course,at that time, the eastern schools all got totally wiped out by playing almost any western school, unlike now (:-) and at one time, I believe, the NCAAs were arranged so that the semis *had* to pit two eastern schools so that and east-west matchup (usually slaughter) had to occur, at least as I recall. On the winning thing at RPI, as an alum, I certainly am not unhappy with their record since 1979 ... as recently posted. All you can ask is decently competitive with an occasional shot at the nationals, IMHO, at most of the Div I schools. If people on campus are unhappy with the team's performance, I don't understand it. There are very few schools that are going to be strong year after year. Tony Buffa RPI '64