I remember reading about this.. oh.. about 4 months ago, when the zamboni debate was raging. ANyway, I read the answer, but promptly forgot, and it's become an issue in my lab: What freezes faster: warm or cold water?... And why? Sorry about the non-hockey topic.. (GRIN) --- Eric Rickin ([log in to unmask]) University of Michigan Class of (December) 1995 finger -l [log in to unmask] for PGP Public Key Homepage: http://www.umich.edu/~erickin