I was just thinking .. , and I should be working. Clarkson's fate is already determined. Clarkson is in no matter what. And if another team wins the ECAC tourney the point is moot also, since Clarkson and that other team are in. The questions come up if Clarkson wins the tourney and RPI/Colgate/Princeton (and Brown??) are left scrambling for the second spot. Given that, IMO : RPI beats Colgate , Princeton is in based on RPICH and H2H. Colgate beats RPI , Colgate sneaks in despite losing to Princeton twice this year. Do you people agree or disagree ? Unfortunately I can't work out the RPICH but based purely on IMO, that's what I think. If someone can get me some hard numbers that show Colgate must it all to get in, please send them to me. Also, if indeed the RPICH is the 'only' criteria used, isn't it possible that Princeton,Colgate AND RPI's RPICH (god I hate writing that) can all end up below that of Brown's ? And if Brown gets in - Princeton will have a field day with that. thanks steve czuba RPI 86