Sorry to waste the bandwidth .... but if you view melting ice cream and freezing ice cubes as sort of time reversals of one another, then we are all experts on thisquestion apparently asked in th*that* trial down in LA (will not mention it :-)) ..... Which melts fastest, ice cream in warm air, or ice cream in cold air? And a related question, can melted ice cream be used as a clock....? This ought to be a much more interesting experiment, at least you can eat part of it!! :-) BTW -- on a "real" hockey topic, I was surprised to hear that the RPI rink was amongst the largest in the East ..... has it been enlarged during the renovation? I agree that the locals mixed in tends to quiet things, during my days there they all sat on one side and students on the other and the noise was deafening on our side, while the other side usually sat on their hands ... sounds like the tradition continues. The only time the field house was really quiet was when students were gone, during the Invitational and semester break. Tony Buffa RPI '64 Go Engineers!