my two cents: On Dec 5, 13:47, Jim Chalfonte RPI Union wrote: > Subject: Re: RPI vs. Princeton > > It's the teams that RPI is expected to defeat that they > have problems with. Playing up or down to the opponents level > maybe? RPI didn't look like a 5-0 team against Union as can be > seen by the SOG 33-21 in favor of Union. However, one thing I've > seen with this year's team is heart. Even if they have a flat night, > they are able to pick up their level of play in the third and pull it > out. A new desire to win? Maybe a coaching change was just what > we needed. >-- End of excerpt from Jim Chalfonte RPI Union i concur heartily about the new desire to win, but i'd caution that it seems to be a long-standing tradition for the Engineers to be overconfident and goof up in games they (and everyone else) expect them to win. words of warning to Coach Fridgen :-). jag RPI '87