Last update 12/3/94 This is the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for the Women in Hockey mailing list. To suggest additions, changes, corrections or anything else, send mail to [log in to unmask] This list is for women who play Ice and Roller hockey, or who are involved in Ice and Roller hockey in some way, or are interested in playing in these sports. ============ Table of Contents ============ 1) Important Thoughts 2) The really quick intro for people who refuse to read instructions, even though they really ought to 2a) Subscriptions 2b) Cancelling Subscriptions 2c) Archives 3) Group charter, rules, and guidelines 4) Frequently Asked Questions (this is under construction) 5) 30 second guide to using listproc ============ Important Thoughts ============ Everyone is requested to read the rules and charter at least once and to please abide by them. Failure to cooperate can lead to having your posting priviledges revoked, or to find yourself removed from the list completely. Laurie Sefton ([log in to unmask]) and Chuq Von Rospach ([log in to unmask]) are your co-List Moms on women-in-hockey. We have final say on what is and is not appropriate for posting to the list. If you are requested to close out a discussion, take it to e-mail or shift it to a different mailing list, please comply. You can discuss the situation with us, and I'm willing to listen, but ultimately, nobody else gets a vote. Anyone who feels a posting or message thread is out of line should contact the list mom. Users who try to take content issues into their own hands will only make the List Mom very unhappy with them. These rules are in place because users taking content issues into their own hands is one of the most common causes of flamewars. List Mom doesn't like flamewars. Let's all work together to keep the lists a fun place to be. (if you want flamewars, read rec.sports.hockey). PLEASE keep a copy of this around so that if you need to change your subscription or remove yourself from the list for some reason you can do it without a lot of hassle (note: laziness and ignorance are not valid reasons for asking the List Mom to remove you from the lists. List Mom is at least as busy as you are, and prefers to let the computer do the grunt work. Please try to follow the directions first, and if you have problems, I'll be thrilled to help if you can't make this stuff work for some reason, but I'd frankly rather be doing list content than list administration). ======= The really quick intro for people who refuse to read instructions, even though they really ought to ======= To post to the list, send mail to [log in to unmask] There are also other related lists on medraut.apple.com: roller-hockey-intl, bay-area-hockey, and the San Jose Sharks lists.. Each has their own FAQ that you can get if you're interested. To get them, send "info bay-area-hockey" or "info roller-hockey-intl" or "info sharks" to the address "[log in to unmask]" with a blank Subject. +++ SUBSCRIPTIONS To subscribe to a list, please send mail to "[log in to unmask]". Please put the following command in the body of the message (the subject line should NOT be a command. It can be blank or nonsense): subscribe women-in-hockey your name +++ CANCELLING A SUBSCRIPTION To unsubscribe, use "unsubscribe" instead of "subscribe" +++ ARCHIVES The archives for the women-in-hockey list can be accessed the following ways: o Through the listproc: Send listproc a message of "index women-in-hockey" to see what's in there. See the instructions at the end of this FAQ for full details on using the archive server portion of the server. o Through ftp: the women-in-hockey list ftp directory is on the machine "medraut.apple.com" in directory "pub/hockey/women-in-hockey". o Through gopher: You can access the files through gopher, too, using the path "pub/hockey/women-in-hockey". o Through mosaic: The women-in-hockey list home page is: (under construction) If you get completely lost, send "help" to the listproc and read the (gasp) instructions. A quick introduction to using listproc is appended to this FAQ. Please read it. It will make your life much easier. ====== Group charter, rules, and guidelines ====== What belongs on the list: Anything having to do with women playing ice or roller hockey, or who are somehow involved in these sports. People interested in getting involved with the sports and/or playing are also welcome. We are excluding field hockey from the list, since it's different enough from ice/roller hockey to deserve it's own lists, and because the audiences are distinct enough that we feel it's a reasonable distinction. We're open for discussion on this. What's not allowed is flaming. This is a friendly joint. You want to be a jerk, go read rec.sports.hockey. The List Mom reserves the right to define 'jerk' on a case by case basis. We will also take a VERY hard stand against brain-dead gender flames. This is not a discussion list where people can discuss WHETHER women ought to play hockey. The reality is they DO, and they should. People who attempt to act like Male Chauvinist Pigs will find their tenure on the list very short, and not very satisfying. We don't mind when emotions run high. We do mind when people lose control of them. We think of this place as a sports bar where everyone gets together and watches the games and then buys each other beers and talks. We do NOT want to run a bar where people watch games and then throw the chairs at each other. We expect everyone to act like intelligent, reasonably mature human beings. Pretend your mother is behind the bar and act accordingly (because she is!) Also, do not post copyrighted material. It's illegal to type something in from a newspaper verbatim, or repost something sent out via Clarinet. Yes, we know it happens all over the net. That doesn't make it right or legal. If you DO do it, you put both yourself and us as owners of the list at legal risk of the copyright holder decides to fight. You CAN post a pointer to the work, summarize what the work is saying, post quotes from the work without the boundaries of fair use (and feel free to ask us if you aren't sure), but posting entire articles is a major no-no. Failure to cooperate on this one can get you kicked off the list, so please be careful. If you aren't sure, ask first. ========================== Frequently Asked Questions ========================== Okay, so what belongs here? ======================================= 30 second instruction on using listproc ======================================= The quick and easy 30 second guide to listproc (for people who hate reading the instructions) Listproc is a mailing list and archiving system that is similar to, but not identical with, the BITNET LISTSERV software. If you take the time to learn a few simple command, youUll find it a powerful and flexible way to find and access the information that has been made available. Listproc, however, is stupid. If you donUt send it exactly what it wants to see, it'll make you miserable. Fortunately, it is pretty simple to feed the listproc. Just follow the directions. All listproc commands are sent to the address [log in to unmask] as an email message. The commands should be in the body of the message, not the Subject line. In fact, if you attempt to put commands in the Subject line, listproc will reject your message and return it. LEAVE THE SUBJECT LINE BLANK. If your mail software won't let you do that, put something cute and innovative in there instead. Whatever you do, don't put listproc commands in the Subject line! If you remember that piece of advice, 99% of your problems with listproc are solved. Listproc has two major subsystems: the mailing list subsystem and the archive subsystem. There is one command all listproc users should know: HELP. You can give it a parameter of COMMAND, where COMMAND is one of the listproc commands, and listproc will send you more details on that command. Mailing List Commands There are four commands commonly used to control the mailing list subsystem: LISTS: The LISTS command takes no parameters. It will cause listproc to send you the names of the mailing lists supported by this server. SUBSCRIBE: enrolls you in a mailing list. The format is: SUBSCRIBE LISTNAME YOURNAME. LISTNAME is the name of the mailing list. YOURNAME is, not surprisingly, your real name, not your email address, which listproc will get from the header of the email message. UNSUBSCRIBE: removes you from a mailing list. The format is UNSUBSCRIBE LISTNAME. You don't give your name to the UNSUBCRIBE command. SET: The SET command lets you change the options attached to your subscription on a list. The format is SET LISTNAME OPTION. The common options are DIGEST, ACK and NOACK. DIGEST converts your subscription to the digest format, which means that instead of getting individual messages as they are sent to listproc, you would get them in a combined format, usually once a day, in a single mail message. This option is very useful to people suffering from too much email. ACK and NOACK turn off the digest format and cause listproc to send you individual messages again. The difference between the two is how listproc handles your own submissions to the list. ACK will cause listproc to send you a copy of your own messages, while NOACK won't. The default is ACK. There are other commands and options that can be used as well, and these are covered in the on-line documentation available through the HELP command. In summary, here's how a typical listproc command would look that uses these commands. This assumes UCB mail or mailx, but other mailers will work the same way: % mailx [log in to unmask] Subject: remember, we don't put listproc commands here HELP HELP SET LIST SUBSCRIBE mae-users Chuq Von Rospach SET mae-users MAIL DIGEST SUBSCRIBE mae-bugs Chuq Von Rospach UNSUBSCRIBE mae-bugs SET mae-users NOACK ^D % Archive Server Commands The archive server allows you to receive copies of files stored in the archive. This service is similar to FTP, but doesn't require that a user have access to anything but electronic mail. To find out what is available in the archive, you use the INDEX command. Archives can be nested, and to get information on listed sub-archives. An example of doing this would look like this: % mail [log in to unmask] Subject: This space left blank, of course INDEX INDEX mae-users INDEX mae-users/digests ^D % This will return you three mail messages, one with the master index, one with the index for the mae-users list, and one for the digests sub-archive in mae-users. The way this listproc is configured, all messages submitted to a list are compiled into digests and stored in the archives in the digests sub-archive, which means it's possible to locate and recover previous messages. To have listproc send you a file, you use the GET command. The format is GET ARCHIVE FILENAME. An example of this would be: [log in to unmask] Subject: remember, this is blank! GET mae-users/digests 94Apr27 ^D % This will return the file in an email message. If the file is long, it might be split into multiple pieces. Binary files will be encoded in a format to allow them to be mailed. The SEARCH command allows you to locate specific pieces of information within the archive. It allows you to 'grep' the archives. This is especially useful if you're trying to locate a specific topic in the digests, or, say, copy of one of your postings. The format of the SEARCH command is SEARCH ARCHIVE SEARCHSTRING. And example of this is: % mail [log in to unmask] Subject: do I really have to say it? SEARCH mae-users/digests "Chuq Von Rospach" SEARCH mae-users server ^D % With these commands, you can do the common actions you want out of a listproc. If you want to learn more about listproc, please send it the HELP command and start reading the on-line documentation. If you have any problems with the listproc, please send mail to [log in to unmask] or [log in to unmask] Chuq Von Rospach <PlaidSoft: Writing, Editing, and Damage Control for Hire> [log in to unmask] * GEnie: chuq * AOL: chuqui * CompuServe 75141,1242 {Member Science Fiction & Fantasy Writers of America}