Here is my poor attempt to show the BC player benches. You need to see it using fixed a width font like courier new. The problem is the visitor's bench is built so it goes from inside the zone BC defends twice into center ice, but it does not even reach the red line. BU end blue red blue BC end __________|________________|_______________|__________ |____________________| visitor bench The BC bench, on the other hand goes from the blue line to over the red line: penality BC bench _boxes_____________________ _____________ |__|__|__|__________________|_____________ | | | BU end blue red blue BC end Is that clear? It is the best I can do. Sean Pickett Go BU Terriers, 1994 Hockey East Champions! [log in to unmask]