Every ticket I've ever sold or bought or seen has been a revocable license or permit. At Maine, a warning is given, but if some rule continues to be ignored, then the person is removed from the arena. It would be a very rare case for someone to be barred from the arena, but I think it has happened. Most arenas have rules and procedures such as you describe, except I've never heard of a "yelling" rule ... maybe language that is used, but not yelling. Rules are generally made because of safety (generally recognized hazard or file marshall order) or comfort (view obstruction or liquor or language or ther harassment of nearby fans). Increasingly, sportsmanship is being taken more seriously. If you get to your arena early enough, you will hear a pregame announcement on sportsmanship. It is dictated by a new NCAA rule. cheers, Wayne Smith The College Hockey Discussion List administrator Systems Group - CAPS BITNET/CREN: wts@maine University of Maine System internet: [log in to unmask]