I can appreciate AD McDonald's position on wanting a Top 25 to increase exposure, but I'm still against it. Of the polls he mentioned [field hockey, volleyball, etc], not one of them includes a sub-.500 team...where records are given. Hence, the probability is quite high that these polls include less than 50% of the competing teams. I still like 12, but I could be convinced of 15 for the "bubble" fans out there. That would be over 35% of the competing teams. Of course, what I'd really like is to reduce the NCAA tourney to eight teams [given the current D-I field], but... :-) John H U Mich