Thanks for the good HOCKEY-L article, Mike! >Here's an alternative: > A. Give FIVE points to a team that wins in regulation or overtime. ... So you seem to agree with me (and some others) that a shoot-out is fun and exciting, but shouldn't be worth much in the standings. Unfortunately, changing college hockey standings calculations from the *traditional* 2-1-0 points will not happen because that's the way hockey *must* be scored (IMHO). College Hockey doesn't want to diverge from traditional scoring, but wants the excitement of a shootout. Giving a win to a "shoot-out winner" is too much; giving a point is a great compromise. I agree that is is still too much! For the basketball fans that think a tie is a terrible thing, the shoot-out is good. That a shoot-out win is not a real win is pretty confusing. If college hockey really wants to attract new fans and TV exposure, it needs the shoot-out, IMHO. I hope the HE experiment is somehow deemed a success by season's end! (sorry this is so disjointed ... trick-or-treaters will start arriving any minute! :-)) Yours in college hockey, Wayne Smith The College Hockey Discussion List administrator Systems Group - CAPS BITNET/CREN: wts@maine University of Maine System internet: [log in to unmask]