Though I have had Gopher season tickets since I was an infant, I have worked (actually had worked, I just quit last weekend) for the company that does ushering at all Gopher, Twins, Civic Center, High School State Tournament, etc. etc. events. The way tickets are counted is this: For Gophers: they take the number of season tickets and add on the walk-up and single game sales and get a number. That's why last year there could be many empty seats and there would still be a sellout announced. Many companies bought season tickets and didn't use the seats, and many "students" bought student seats, and turned out not to be students, therefore they couldn't get into the building without proper ID, so their seats were empty too. At Mariucci (both the old and new ones) there are no turnstiles, so the count can't be taken from there. However, all the tickets are counted by the ushers and a ticket count is turned in. For the Twins, the same procedure is used. They use the number of season tickets plus single game and walk-up numbers. All the tickets are counted and the turnstile numbers taken, but they are only used to turn into the ticket office. I myself have prepared the ticket counts at events and they can be up to 1 - 2,000 persons off. An interesting note, for high school tournaments, the tickets are done in the same matter, but we don't usually count the tickets...they're weighed. So, basically, that's the Twin Cities way of doing a ticket count! All the tickets are counted, but those numbers aren't used. Just thought I'd add my two cents worth, Katie Arth Go Gophers! *Joe Dziedzic will be missed* [log in to unmask]