mike & others, sorry if my post wasn't clear, I was not pleased by the gogher woof i don't think it is relevent to how other schools recruit i do think it has been beaten to death BOTH PRO & CON along with several other issues a couple of which i also pointed out. I tried (& failed obviously) to say i feel what Mn does works for them, but that does not mean it would work, or be good for, other programs or the youth hockey in their home state. I tried to point out two thoughts that could underlay the gohper attitued & then question their validity. For the record i thought Dave's post was funny & worry if anybody said "keep it off the net" as it was not as bad as many posts this year. what i said is what mn does works for them & thats nice, but it doesn't mean it will work for anyone else. what i should have added (but thought i had implied) was that it also does not make them better or worse then anybody else. Please read my post again & see if that is not what i said ( i did & thought i had said it) if not i am sorry. In my defense on one point, i do still think a coach would stick his neck out if he said "i will only recruit from this state". He might get a grace period of a couple of years (maybe) but if the team is not "succesful" that coach will be looking for new work. do da name brad beutue ring a bell? me wanna talk hockey hell(r)? there is talk of a pro roller blade league bleeech