Since this has become an issue again (go back a couple months to find all of the postings about UAF in the WCHA or the CCHA or in Siberia), I started thinking about what a 12-team CCHA would look like (plus, I really don't want to talk about Maine anymore). IMO, we're going to have to go to two divisions. The first problem becomes where to split (this is all contingent, of course, on 9 of the 11 current members). It would be real tough to put UM and MSU in different divisions (esp. if number of division games is different from that of non-division games, which it almost has to be) as with a number of other rivalries in the conference. So, my suggestion (and if there are any CCHA AD's, officils [sorry] officials, what have you, out there, please remember this does not reflect the opinion of anybody at MSU but me). Western (or Northern) Division Eastern (or Southern) Division ______________________________ ______________________________ Lake Superior Miami Ferris St. Michigan Western Michigan Michigan State Notre Dame Ohio State Illinois-Chicago Bowling Green Alaska-Fairbanks Kent In order to avoid a large amount of travel problems, scheduling could be done thus: In division: 4 games- 2 home, 2 away Outside division: 2 games- either both home or both away This means teams wouldn't have to travel to Alaska for one game only nor would they have to stop at one city one night and pick up and move on to another city the next night (the exception, of course, would be UM and MSU, who always schedule some of the games between them at JLA). This also gives you 32 conf. games (a bit hefty, but with a 12-team league with only NC$$ game restrictions, unlike the Ivies and some others in the ECAC, achievable). Travel partners wouldn't work as well as in this league as in the ECAC, since the schools are much further apart. Please remember that this is just a suggestion. As I stated before, IMO, I think it's going to be tough to convince 9 CCHA schools that adding UAF would help them out. So, try to keep the flames at ember level. And, by the way, Happy Birthday, Mike. G. M. Finniss Michigan State University WVU '87, UTenn '92, MSU who the hell knows when? TA UNIONS STILL SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!! [log in to unmask] [log in to unmask]