Others have correctly passed on the correct wording of the "Hey <name>, you're not a goalie, you're a sieve!..." cheer. If I'm not mistaken, that cheer originally hails from Bright Arena at Harvard -- it certainly goes back a loooong way there, and I've been told by at least one member of another school's band (RPI, I think) that "we stole it from you guys..." Now that I'm at Wisconsin, I notice that only a small number of people know the cheer and yell it out (of course, with Saturday season tix, I haven't seen a whole lot of good opportunities to use it, since the Badgers haven't been that sharp on the second night of home stands...). A huge arena like the Great Dane is great when everyone cheers, but having the entire Bright Arena yell the black hole cheer in unison is psychologically if not acoustically louder, from the goalie's point of view. And oh yes, the Harvard administration has tried to crack down on "inappropriate" cheers by the band and crowd. When I was there ('87-'91), "suck" was a four-letter word, but we sometimes forgot that. :-) Banners would often get confiscated and certain cheers were strictly "back of the band" cheers, done without the express consent of the band staff. Of course, they were usually the funniest... "Bright" college years.... -===-John R. [log in to unmask] Chem. Dept-===-