Might gneerally helped in you could give names... There are a few that are pretty good John Gallagher and Rob Hearn come to mind as decent as is Cerbo. I think Murphy and Ammian stick out as particularly bad (as well as the infamous Pierre Belanger, so I hear). Might want to give names next time, if you can. Thanks *************************************************************************** Bri Farenell Clarkson '95 Let's Go Tech! [log in to unmask] Glens Falls High '91 AHL and NCAA contact for rec.sport.hockey Go Erin Whitten (GFH '89)! Adirondack Red Wings, AHL Calder Cup Champs: '81 '86 '89 '92 Join the AHL mailing list: [log in to unmask] GO BU!