I have to agree with John in that there is nothing wrong with heckling as long as it is clean. I personally don't think that there is any place for profanity at sporting events. I was, for 5 years, part of a group of fans that referred to ourselves as the a------ guys. The swearing in the name is not indicative of our style of cheering, however. We always stood, not sat, in the back of the Slapshots section at Munn and generally pissed off everyone around us because we wouldn't shut up. One guy went as far as to punch one of our members simply because he was cheering vociferously for our favorite Spartan, Walt Bartels. The point is that we were always loud, always obnoxious, but rarely vulgar or crude. We considered ourselves to be some of the best fans in the building because we were cheering all of the time. We admitedly swore on rare occasions (usually against u-m) but the incidents were not common. There were simply too many families with small children around, and we had too much class to ruin the game for those around us. It is interesting to note, however, that by being loud all of the time, we got blamed for many of the vulgar chants that went up from the student section, even though we did not start them. We even got a message, via the slapshot newsletter, from Coach Mason to clean up our act. I don't know if this happens to John and other clean, loud fans but I hope that they keep on yelling for their favorite teams (even u-m) because we don't need any more fans sitting on their hands. Just my 2 cents. --Steve Moerland MSU '92 Innocent of all charges