Boy! Deliberately take a week off from reading "hockey" mail (for finals) and look what happens... I won't elaborate on most of what's already been said, but it was surprising to read about it first in the local paper! BTW, the article Bri quoted continued on under the headline "Another National Poll Unveiled by Teachers" to give a reasonable description of CHODR (although its NOT a poll...). Mr. Gay even managed to appear to get Tim Danehy "promoted" from grad student to faculty status in the department of electrical and computer engineering at Clarkson. Congratulations, Tim! I wonder what's got the "Times" suddenly so tuned to electronic affairs? A couple of last comments on the Marsh/Morris/Farnell affair. I share Bri's respect for Marsh (although not his opinion of the SLU team (:>)) I had heard that Joe was really upset by the comment attributed to Morris in the original Times article. From the follow-up article in tonight's paper, it would appear that Morris did in fact make the comment, regretted it, and apologized to Marsh. That's a valid thing to apologize for. I wonder if it was that apology that somehow got associated with Bri? Robin Lock St. Lawrence University Any hockey-l folks planning on attending the Syracuse Invitational?