Mike made a number of comments yesterday about Canadian college hockey all of which agee with my observations: there players are older, they don't offer athletic scholarships, eligibility rules are not as strict. I remember being at an RPI Tourney, I think in 1984, but it might have been earlier, and the University of Toronto was one of the particpants. There were a number of NHL scouts in attendence (because of Adam Oates?) and I overheard them talking about Darren Boyko who was apparently the star of the Toronto team. One joked to the other about him still being around after all these years. Jon Greene commented about Don Armstrong (he did graduate in 1978, but I do not remember if he was the Captian.) I remember meeting him and his parents in the local Holiday Inn while attending some RPI TOurney while he was playing on the team and thinking to myself that he seemed quite intelligent. This was in contrast to several (but certainly not all) the Hockey players that I either met while an undergraduate or I taught while I was a graduate TA. RPI has attracted a number of very intelligent Hockey players over the years--the exploits of Joe Juneau have been recounted on Hockey-L, TSN and elsewhere many times. I also remember that the goalie Terry Jordan (RPI '72) won the award for having the highest QPA among all students as a freshman. I better not mention the other end of the spectrum except to say that it was standard fair while I was an undergraduate (1964-68) for half the team to go on academic probation after the first semester. This seems to have improved, somehow, over the intervening years.