Thanks to Mike for posting the new rules. Most, I think, are good ideas - e.g., I like rule 4-2(e) that allows teams to skate full strength after co-incidental minors. On the other hand, I don't think so highly of the corresponding rule 4-3(b) for coincidental majors. IMHO if someone gets a major, even coincidental, the teams should be short handed. Not making them shorthanded takes a little of the sting out of the penalty and, I fear, will make major penalty taking a little more common. As to the faceoff circle rule 6-12(a), I don't know how well that will work. Just to be silly, what would happen if some member of a team kept touching the circle until all members for his side had been thrown out? Forcing a throw-out is only going to slow things down. If you are serious about stopping this most common of all infractions, make it a minor penalty to touch the circle during the faceoff. I would not support that, BTW. One point of emphasis I would like to see added is an additional minor penalty for the instigator of roughing or fighting. I know its often very hard to tell who the instigator is, but by gollys, if someone starts the rough stuff, his team ought to be a man down even if the other player retaliates! Tom Rowe Internet: [log in to unmask] ****************************************************************************** As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand Josh Billings ******************************************************************************