> Albany would be about 4 hours from the most distant location > (Brown, Clarkson SLU, Yale and Princeton). Much more reasonable. In fact, I think you will find that Brown and Harvard are both less than (barely) 3 hours from Albany. How about one person from each ECAC school send me their travel time from the school to Albany (or Schenectady or Troy), and I'll post a definitive list. Or maybe it's time I got a new set of AAA maps, and get the AAA travel times off of the back?