1. on ECAC: if an ECAC underdog wins it all, it's something worth remembering. 2. on NCAA: I believe in structuring the playoffs in such a way as to devote equal number of berths to the league. The only way to determine which league is the strongest is through playing in the playoffs, not voting by officials! Perhaps 2 teams per conference, plus the top two independents, then out of those teams, seed them so that #7 plays #10 and #8 plays #9 in a prelim. Rich vehlow [log in to unmask]