Just a quick point, I think it is a little strong to say Maine doesn't miss Carney & Straub. Defensive scoring for Maine has not been there as last year. Carney had 7-49--56 and Straub 6-25--31 last year; this season, Imes has 3-19--22 and Martin 4-14--18 as the top two D scorers. Maine's defense has played well but I still consider it to be the Black Bears' weak point if there is one. The pluses do outweigh the minuses, however. The key for the No-Name D will be to remain just that - not to draw attention to itself by coming up with a weak game in their own end. --- Mike Machnik [log in to unmask] mikem@{beanpot,bubba}.ma30.bull.com