A response for David Smith and anyone else following the Michigan-Ohio State discussion. Sorry about cluttering up the list with this one, but I'm hoping that David and I aren't the only people interested in this. Dave - - I rarely see the Bucks away from Yost, so I certainly conceed that maybe this style of play if fairly limited to the OSU-Michigan series. - Much of what I say/said is generated from anger towards OSU. You're exactly right - Michigan and Ohio State bring out the worst in each other. To put my feelings into context, if Hitler, Sadam H and Jerry Welsh were standing against a wall and I had a gun with only two bullets...I'd shoot Jerry twice just to be sure. - You're also right that Loney had a great season (I've been trying to tout him) and shouldn't be judged by this one ugly incident. I haven't seen a replay either, so I'm pissed solely but what I caught with the naked eye. Still, he WILL be roughed up by the Michigan crowd next season, and by the players as well I assume (the eye-for-an-eye theory which Michigan painfully practices). As Jerry would say, "...these things happen." - The coin comment was a cheap shot towards OSU by me. Yes, they were throwing coins onto the ice which is stupid. But the Michigan crowd is guilty of similar incidents as well. We're trying to stop this, the crowd has a tendency to harrass anyone that throws anything no matter what team they are for, but we'll always have that idiot minority that thinks it's funny/cute to throw things. Maybe if we threw them onto the ice as well, they'd think twice. - Anyway, glad that you're back. I'm sure that you enjoyed the nice run that Cornell made in the ECAC tourney. John Haeussler Univ of Michigan