I really like John's idea, I wasn't thinking very much when I thought of the four team tourney. An eight team tournament is a good idea, in fact I agree more with any tournament which has a power of 2 number of teams (2,4,8...) because it removes all of the byes and de-emphasizes the seedings a bit. Now if it could only incorporate the independents... -Ryan Stone Lawrence University (Appleton, WI) '93 Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute '93 ---------------------------------- -------------------------------------- | RYAN G. STONE | | "In the Beginning, there was a Great | | 218 North Hall, R.P.I. | | Void. Then God said 'Let there be | | Troy, NY 12180-3590 | | Light!' There was still a Great | | (518) 276-7230 | | Void, but at least He could see it."| | e-mail: [log in to unmask] | | -Source Unknown | ---------------------------------- --------------------------------------