Rich V.: "I do NOT approve of bipartisan cooperation of pep bands at games. Psychological domination of the fans and the rink atmosphere is part..." as a band member, I must say the following: it helps neither band, nor the fans, for two bands to be competing for the same air at the same time. It sounds terrible. When Clarkson came to RPI, both bands were very good about sharing playing time. There's nothing wrong with civility, and it's even OK to hobnob with opposing fans, it does not diminish your enthusiasm for your own team. C'mon, "psychological domination?" Is this college hockey or "1984?" Ross RPI `91 ------ Go Engineers! :-o "Toot toot!"