I can remember a trip that the RPI pep band did to UVM in 1986-87 The return trip was terrible (it was snowing rather heavily and there was alot of ice). The final 30 or so miles from Bennington,VT to Troy is over a very windy, narrow road. One of our cars had to stop and we had to continue on cramed into the remaining cars. - Maybe it is a UVM curse!? ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric Maiwald.............................maiwald at dockmaster.ncsc.mil RPI '87...............................Go, Go, Go, You, Red, Red, Red!!! -----------------------------------------------------------------------