I believe some of the correspondence on this list is mistaken. There has been no substantive change in admission standards for hockey players in any of the ECAC schools for a decade. When the ECAC and Hockey East parted company the ECAC's aim was to not change the way they were doing things. The procedures and guidelines were merely to provide the league with some method of verification if a member were to stray. The non-Ivy schools also wanted to growth of athletic scholarships for hockey and even to reduce their expenditures--some of the non-Ivy ECAC teams have no athletic scholarships but I do not know if this is absolutely true of all the teams. The allegation that the ECAC is in decline is incorrect. In the decade since the schism of the ECAC and the schism of the ECAC and HE the ECAC had done very well in terms of National Champions, runner ups and making the final 2 + 2. There are many ways to to cross compare the leagues but in the final analysis the best rating is how the best from each league plays against each other--the NCAA tournament especially the final 2 + 2 where your presence is determined by play not by seeding. It would be interesting to have one of you who has access to all the statistics to give us league representation in the final 2 + 2, the final 2 and the champions for the last decade. I did this once but I can not find it now.