--- Bill Fenwick wrote: I wouldn't shed too many tears for the poor Ivies if they are losing "coaches" like Brian Mason and, if the RUMOR is true, Jeff Kosak. You can't have a winning hockey team with strict admissions policies? Mason is WRONG WRONG WRONG. Both Cornell and Harvard have had successful hockey programs for years. Of course, they have been able to recruit on this winning tradition and that, coupled with the two schools' being somewhat larger and more academically diverse (and more "prestigious"?) than Dartmouth, makes it easier for the Big Red and the Crimson to get the players they need to stay... --- end of quoted material --- Actually, I think the real problem Dartmouth has in competing for recruits with Cornell and Harvard is the school colors - red is so much more cheerful and inspiring than green! :) Harvard might be more "prestigious" than the rest of the Ivies (you'll get many different opinions on this depending on how you rate "prestige"), but it also is in Boston. Boston is a *city* (Dartmouth is in Hanover, with a population of 10,000) that has a rich hockey tradition and might prove attractive to many players. Cornell also has an Agricultural School that I have been told makes it attractive to some players. This kind of comparison about advantages of one school over another is pretty useless and must be resolved on an individual basis by the potential students - each will have his own needs and desires. ALL (yes, every single one!) of the Dartmouth players I have asked, said they came here because they liked "Dartmouth" - the academic programs, the location, the professors, the students, the "Friends of Hockey" group, etc. There was never any question about which school was their first choice. It might be interesting to ask players at other places why they chose their particular school. - Bob