So we should cancel all public gatherings? What about the athletes
who could infect another team? If you cancel the audience,
shouldn't you also cancel the event?
Americans have a propensity to panic at everything. Its easy to carry the idea of isolation to the extreme, but you really can't live like that. The virus is out of the bag and will continue to spread with or without gatherings of people. If you are ill, or fear you are ill, or test positive (clearly as Dear Professor "very stable genius" Trump anyone can have the test who wants it - he said so himself from the CDC), then by all means self isolate. But cancelling all sporting events is unlikely to have much impact on this virus.
I have tickets to concerts, plays, travel plans..... I am 75 and therefore "at risk" of dying if I contract the virus, but I am not going to dig a hole and pull the top in over me. And I doubt very many other people would do that either. So we're back to what I suggested earlier. Use common sense, don't expose others if you think you are ill, but make your own decisions.
Americans have a propensity to panic at everything. Its easy to carry the idea of isolation to the extreme, but you really can't live like that. The virus is out of the bag and will continue to spread with or without gatherings of people. If you are ill, or fear you are ill, or test positive (clearly as Dear Professor "very stable genius" Trump anyone can have the test who wants it - he said so himself from the CDC), then by all means self isolate. But cancelling all sporting events is unlikely to have much impact on this virus.
I have tickets to concerts, plays, travel plans..... I am 75 and therefore "at risk" of dying if I contract the virus, but I am not going to dig a hole and pull the top in over me. And I doubt very many other people would do that either. So we're back to what I suggested earlier. Use common sense, don't expose others if you think you are ill, but make your own decisions.
Tom
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On 3/8/2020 8:35 PM, Mark Lewin wrote:
[log in to unmask]"> In an ideal world, I’m a believer of personal freedom and responsibility. In such a world, I would totally support a policy of offering refunds to whoever wanted it and allowing fans to personally decide whether they want to risk attending the game. If they became ill or died thereafter, so be it. Their choice.
However, it’s not an ideal world. People making their own personal choice would come to the game, “possibly” become infected and then go back out into the real world. Then the virus would incubate for some period of time, and the infected person would then become contagious before showing any symptoms of becoming ill. What would happen when those infected people show up in supermarkets, train stations, airports or (if they were lucky) show up for a hockey tournament the following weekend? Thousands of people are now facing risk of exposure. What about their right to choose their risk of exposure?
Isn’t what what we are talking about here, the very definition of public health policy?
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On Mar 8, 2020, at 20:27, Tom Rowe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
"When you have no idea the cause or the transmission mechanism within your country of a virus,...." Which explains precisely why putting an empty seat between people is not much of a solution. IMO, such as it is, would be to allow the fans to make up their own minds but refund tickets that they turn in if they choose not to attend.
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[log in to unmask]">When you have no idea the cause or the transmission mechanism within your country of a virus, I assume over precaution is called for. But why not, with full warning to attendees, that only half of the stadium capacity will be admitted and those inside must have one chair between them and the next person - should be enough to avoid cross contamination. Individuals can make their own health decisions better than a central authority (arena owner) can. Of course, the drawback to that would be what if attendees at NCAA hockey games did get sick and die, then there would be fewer of us to champion, advocate, and lobby for hockey. As a hockey fan, I sure would not like to be treated like a rat in the Black Plague.Nathan
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Subject: Re: it's startingThanks for posting this Mark. I heard this from Adam Wodon on facebook so I was warned. It seems crazy, but I will roll with what is best for our country to not let this disease spread if we can help it.
Hoping it won't cancel the Frozen Four, but it *could* happen folks.
The whole world has gone crazy!
CarolGo Gophers!!!.
If you receive emails from CHN, you've probably heard that RPI has implemented a social contact protocol because of a confirmed case of COVID-19 in the capital district of NY. As a result, the ECAC quarterfinal series against Harvard will be played as scheduled this coming weekend but with no spectators allowed.
I'm disappointed and am hopeful that the Institute's response is over abundance of caution. But disappointment over a sporting event is much more preferable to facilitating the spread of a virus that can lead to the death of even one individual.
There are comments from season ticket holders to RPI games who are spewing venom on the RPI sports list about how stupid and irresponsible it is of RPI to restrict access to the game just because of some silly germ. Fortunately, most responses are expressing disappointment but fully support RPI's reaction.
I'm putting this out on the national list since I'm thinking this is just the beginning. RPI has taken this action first but I wouldn't be surprised if this trend continues across the country
