I mentioned Google Apps for Education, thinking that despite your liking Mailman, it may not last long at your shop (it wouldn't if I was in charge, unless significant structure depended on it ... and even then, I'd work to omit it.

Listserv remains for now at UMaine System due to its 600-700 lists, ID management support that would need to be built since list names would be in the Maine.edu namespace, and support for lists where the subscribers come directly and automatically from LDAP.

But I digress from hockey content and apologize to the list members.  Obligatory hockey content: it appears that the NCAA will not institute 4x4 overtime this season.

Cheers, Wayne

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Britton Anderson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

We are a Google Apps shop - and we can do it that way too if the collective group didn't care about the archives and limited abilities for users outside to join. I think our Mailman service is a great option for this that (as of this moment) will live on and can fully accommodate users on public email domains. 

I snagged one of the logs - I'll have one of our guys try it out and see if we can import it.

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Wayne Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

The hockey-l archives are stored in monthly logs.  You can see the names of the log files on the hockey-l home page at http://lists.maine.edu/archives/hockey-l.html

Each post in a log is separated by a line of 73 equal signs.

To get a copy of a log, send email to [log in to unmask] and in the body of the email enter "get hockey-l.log1601", for example (to get the January archives)

Comment:  While Mailman is OK as mailing list processor, I've got to think any institution running it should be evaluating the cloud alternatives.  For example, if U of Alaska uses Google for Education, Google Groups will be a cheaper and superior offering.  Also, does Mailman do DMARC so that, for example, an AOL, Yahoo! or Google user may post and have it distributed successfully to all subscribers?

Cheers, Wayne

On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Britton Anderson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thanks Wayne,

I recalled looking at the UMaine lists site ages ago, but I must have recalled something else. Regardless, do you know what format the archives are in? Mailman spits out flat text files, so possibly a conversion program may not be necessary with some proper massaging assuming the files are human-readable. If you have access to export said files, I could give it a shot if you send them my way. 

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Wayne Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thanks for the offer!

Mailman is not Listserv ® and a product of LSoft (LSoft.com).  The archives differ in format and so are not directly compatible.  However, if you can write or find a program to convert them, this could be a good choice.  I suspect such conversion programs may exist, as I recall the reverse function does exist.

Cheers, Wayne

On Jul 20, 2016 13:46, "Britton Anderson" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Thanks Wayne for keeping this going. Its been fun to follow. 

If folks want the same functionality I can host this list at the University of Alaska. We use the same listserv application (Mailman) and may be able to move the archives over with some coordination from U of Maine if folks here are interested. 

On Tuesday, 19 July 2016, Sean Pickett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I also want to thank Wayne for all he has done for Hockey-L over the decades. I hardly post
to Hockey-L (or anyplace), but I do still enjoy reading what other others post. I also still use
the archives for research, as many times I am able to find what I'm looking for in them, so I
hope that they can be saved as well.

Sean

On 5 Jul 2016 at 11:52, Wayne Smith wrote:

>
> Hi all,
>
> Within the next several months, we need to find a new home for
> Hockey-L (the mailing list), or find an employee at the University of
> Maine System to sponsor the list.  My health requires someone else
> comes forward.
>
> I haven't given up on the latter (new people running the current list)
> and I'll continue to look for a sponsor at UMS.  Such a new sponsor
> might do list owner duties (manage subscriptions) or not.  If not,
> we'll need a list owner volunteer.  It's an ultra-low commitment job,
> given the low activity of Hockey-L.
>
> That low activity means that we probably no longer have a need for the
> mailing list.  There is a Hockey-L at the Frozen Four Facebook group
> that is active.  That or a separate Hockey-L Facebook group may be a
> good activity for someone.
>
> If people want a mailing list, and finding a UMS sponsor falls
> through, we'll need a new mailing list host.
>
> While I like Google Groups, there is a fee for over 100
> members/subscribers, and we currently are at several times that now. 
>
> An offering named groups.io is interesting.  If you can tolerate ads
> (and current groups there don't seem to mind), this is a free service
> and extremely full featured and modern. (and for $10/month ... no
> ads).  
>
> We'd still need someone to take over management of the mailing list. 
> With any luck, I'll be able to help that someone get the list moved.
>
> Think about it, please.
>
> Cheers, Wayne