I only mentioned mailman as a possible means to accommodate archives. Not saying that I like it - I don't particularly care for email as it is. I know its not possible to bring the archives into Google Apps, but we could start fresh from there as a platform if folks wanted. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Wayne Smith <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I mentioned Google Apps for Education, thinking that despite your liking > Mailman, it may not last long at your shop (it wouldn't if I was in charge, > unless significant structure depended on it ... and even then, I'd work to > omit it. > > Listserv remains for now at UMaine System due to its 600-700 lists, ID > management support that would need to be built since list names would be in > the Maine.edu namespace, and support for lists where the subscribers come > directly and automatically from LDAP. > > But I digress from hockey content and apologize to the list members. > Obligatory hockey content: it appears that the NCAA will not institute 4x4 > overtime this season. > > Cheers, Wayne > > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 5:58 PM, Britton Anderson < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> We are a Google Apps shop - and we can do it that way too if the >> collective group didn't care about the archives and limited abilities for >> users outside to join. I think our Mailman service is a great option for >> this that (as of this moment) will live on and can fully accommodate users >> on public email domains. >> >> I snagged one of the logs - I'll have one of our guys try it out and see >> if we can import it. >> >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Wayne Smith <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> The hockey-l archives are stored in monthly logs. You can see the names >>> of the log files on the hockey-l home page at >>> http://lists.maine.edu/archives/hockey-l.html >>> >>> Each post in a log is separated by a line of 73 equal signs. >>> >>> To get a copy of a log, send email to [log in to unmask] and in >>> the body of the email enter "get hockey-l.log1601", for example (to get the >>> January archives) >>> >>> Comment: While Mailman is OK as mailing list processor, I've got to >>> think any institution running it should be evaluating the cloud >>> alternatives. For example, if U of Alaska uses Google for Education, >>> Google Groups will be a cheaper and superior offering. Also, does Mailman >>> do DMARC so that, for example, an AOL, Yahoo! or Google user may post and >>> have it distributed successfully to all subscribers? >>> >>> Cheers, Wayne >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Britton Anderson < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks Wayne, >>>> >>>> I recalled looking at the UMaine lists site ages ago, but I must have >>>> recalled something else. Regardless, do you know what format the archives >>>> are in? Mailman spits out flat text files, so possibly a conversion program >>>> may not be necessary with some proper massaging assuming the files are >>>> human-readable. If you have access to export said files, I could give it a >>>> shot if you send them my way. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Wayne Smith <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the offer! >>>>> >>>>> Mailman is not Listserv ® and a product of LSoft (LSoft.com). The >>>>> archives differ in format and so are not directly compatible. However, if >>>>> you can write or find a program to convert them, this could be a good >>>>> choice. I suspect such conversion programs may exist, as I recall the >>>>> reverse function does exist. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, Wayne >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 20, 2016 13:46, "Britton Anderson" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks Wayne for keeping this going. Its been fun to follow. >>>>>> >>>>>> If folks want the same functionality I can host this list at the >>>>>> University of Alaska. We use the same listserv application (Mailman) and >>>>>> may be able to move the archives over with some coordination from U of >>>>>> Maine if folks here are interested. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, 19 July 2016, Sean Pickett <[log in to unmask]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I also want to thank Wayne for all he has done for Hockey-L over the >>>>>>> decades. I hardly post >>>>>>> to Hockey-L (or anyplace), but I do still enjoy reading what other >>>>>>> others post. I also still use >>>>>>> the archives for research, as many times I am able to find what I'm >>>>>>> looking for in them, so I >>>>>>> hope that they can be saved as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sean >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5 Jul 2016 at 11:52, Wayne Smith wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Hi all, >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Within the next several months, we need to find a new home for >>>>>>> > Hockey-L (the mailing list), or find an employee at the University >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> > Maine System to sponsor the list. My health requires someone else >>>>>>> > comes forward. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > I haven't given up on the latter (new people running the current >>>>>>> list) >>>>>>> > and I'll continue to look for a sponsor at UMS. Such a new sponsor >>>>>>> > might do list owner duties (manage subscriptions) or not. If not, >>>>>>> > we'll need a list owner volunteer. It's an ultra-low commitment >>>>>>> job, >>>>>>> > given the low activity of Hockey-L. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > That low activity means that we probably no longer have a need for >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> > mailing list. There is a Hockey-L at the Frozen Four Facebook >>>>>>> group >>>>>>> > that is active. That or a separate Hockey-L Facebook group may be >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> > good activity for someone. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > If people want a mailing list, and finding a UMS sponsor falls >>>>>>> > through, we'll need a new mailing list host. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > While I like Google Groups, there is a fee for over 100 >>>>>>> > members/subscribers, and we currently are at several times that >>>>>>> now. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > An offering named groups.io is interesting. If you can tolerate >>>>>>> ads >>>>>>> > (and current groups there don't seem to mind), this is a free >>>>>>> service >>>>>>> > and extremely full featured and modern. (and for $10/month ... no >>>>>>> > ads). >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > We'd still need someone to take over management of the mailing >>>>>>> list. >>>>>>> > With any luck, I'll be able to help that someone get the list >>>>>>> moved. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Think about it, please. >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > Cheers, Wayne >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>> >> >