The problem with the WCHA absorbing the remaining CHA teams (Bemidji and Alabama-Huntsville) is trying to convince Alabama Huntsville to move closer to the midwest. I imagine that no athletic director wants to accept the travel to Alabama. Jim -- Jim Dixon (907) 479-4306 home (907) 474-7099 work ************************** On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 8:38 AM, Mark Lewin <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Despite what Bemidji State may want, CHA is going away. They've tried to > get more teams to join to get back up to the minimum six teams for two > years > now with no success. Seeing the writing on the wall, Robert Morris and > Niagara have already applied for and been accepted into Atlantic Hockey. > Even if they were to reneg on that invitation, it is unlikely that the NCAA > would continue to extend their autobid to a 4 team league again. The fact > that they extended the autobid for a second year is amazing but that was > done to encourage the CHA recruiting effort to get back to six teams. > > Unless there is a complete reversal of the past, the CHA is history (or at > least the CHA with an NCAA autobid is history) > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Rowe, Thomas <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > First, does BSU really want to move? Look what happened here. They won > a > > conference and received an automatic bid, played great for two games (I > > sincerely hope it continues - What a story if they win it all!!), and > have a > > ticket to the big dance. This is an easier route than it would be in a > > bigger, tougher conference. Second, as pointed out by Hambone, such a > move > > would decimate the fledgling CHA. > > > > Simple inertia would seem to dictate nothing much is going to happen, but > > lets go left field here. There is precedent of conferences > > forming/reforming and teams moving around in them. Maybe its time to > look > > at all the players in all the conferences and reformulate them so they > make > > maximal geographic sense. I'm not entirely sure what that would be. I'm > > going to ponder this and post a scenario for others to laugh at sometime > > soon. > > > > Tom Rowe > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: - Hockey-L - The College Hockey Discussion List [mailto: > > [log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Hambone > > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:03 PM > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention? > > > > What happens to the two or three member CHA? Seems the two or three > > remaining schools would hold onto the auto-bid for dear life. Seems a > > revised CHA, maybe CHA CHA with DWTS sponsorship, would form the basis > for a > > new league to include both AK teams, UNO, CC, Den along with Notre Dame > and > > North Dakota. Moving MichTech to the CCHA aka MNOH (minnow) league and > > leaving the WCHA aka MN (Mini) league with an auto-bid. Still some > tweaking > > to be done and yield more inter-conference play during the season. Does > > seem better than a Big Ten conference, although it seems the Big Ten > would > > have lots of bucks to gain from such a move. Seems the camel's nose is > > under the tent. Yet, a flick on the nose might just end all this > > speculation as the camel trots off into a Northern MN sunset. Seems this > > might have as much life as a camel in MN. > > -----Original Message----- > > From: John Edwards <[log in to unmask]> > > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Monday, March 30, 2009 1:18 PM > > Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention? > > > > > > >NMU would be the most likely team to move over, but I seem to recall > > >that they moved to the CCHA to get better access to the Detroit > > >marketplace, and I'm not sure those considerations have changed any. > > >If MTU were going to go back to the CCHA, it seems that they would have > > >done it quickly after Northern left. From what I remember at the time, > > >their view was that their participation in the GLI gave them sufficient > > >recognition in the Detroit area. > > > > > >As for UNO, I think their window for joining the WCHA has closed. When > > >UNO added hockey, it would have made the most sense for them to join > > >the WCHA, because UNO was a member of the North Central Conference - > > >along with UND, SCSU, Mankato and Duluth. Therefore, some of their > > >hockey opponents would have been the same as their football and > > >basketball opponents - schools UNO was used to dealing with. However, > > >the disintegration of the NCC sent UNO into a different conference than > > >the Minnesota schools, so that incentive is gone. > > > > > >John > > > > > >On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM, Eric Burton <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > >> The most logical is for UAH to join the CCHA and to have UNO or NMU > > >> join > > the > > >> WCHA. I have heard that > > >> MTU really wants NMU to rejoin the WCHA. I kind of missed the > > >> Wildcats > > and I > > >> also think UNO would be a very nice fit for our league. > > >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Lewin" <[log in to unmask]> > > >> To: <[log in to unmask]> > > >> Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 11:14 AM > > >> Subject: Re: is the WCHA paying attention? > > >> > > >> > > >>> And therein lies the problem. > > >>> > > >>> The most logical would be for both Bemidji and Huntsville to join > > >>> the WCHA. > > >>> But the WCHA probably doesn't want Huntsville because of their > > >>> location > > or > > >>> their perceived lack of parity with other WCHA schools. > > >>> > > >>> If the WCHA doesn't want Huntsville (and that is just an assumption > > >>> on > > my > > >>> part), what makes you think that the CCHA would want them? What > > >>> makes > > you > > >>> think that the WCHA wants Northern Michigan after they jumped ship > > >>> once before? > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Bob Gilreath <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> If I were Bemidji, I'd be courting NMU to rejoin the WCHA and then > > >>>> Huntsville could fill there spot in the CCHA. Seems most logical to > > >>>> me. > > >>>> > > >>>> Bob > > >>>> > > >>>> Bob Gilreath wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> If I were Bemidji, I'd be courting NMU to rejoin the WCHA and then > > >>>>> Huntsville could fill there spot in the CCHA. Seems most logical > > >>>>> to me. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Bob > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> [log in to unmask] wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> my speculation is that WCHA does not want to be an 11 team league. > > >>>>>> That means that for Bemidji to become a member, there either must > > >>>>>> be > > a > > >>>>>> 12th team (who?) or someone has to leave (again, who?) > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 22:56:46 -0400 > > >>>>>>> From: Mark Lewin <[log in to unmask]> > > >>>>>>> Subject: is the WCHA paying attention? > > >>>>>>> To: [log in to unmask] > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> So what do you think? Do you think perhaps Bemidji State is > > >>>>>>> making its case for acceptance into the WCHA? > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> NOTE: ALL UCCS TELEPHONE PREFIXES HAVE CHANGED FROM 262 TO 255 > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> /"\ ASCII Ribbon | charlie shub (719) 255-3492 > > >>>>>> \ / Campaign Against | [log in to unmask] (mobile) 761-8778 > > >>>>>> X HTML in e-mail | > > >>>>>> http://cs.uccs.edu/~cdash <http://cs.uccs.edu/%7Ecdash> < > http://cs.uccs.edu/%7Ecdash>< > > http://cs.uccs.edu/%7Ecdash> (fax) 255-3369 > > >>>>>> / \ and news | University of Colorado at Colorado Springs > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > >John Edwards > > >I used to put quotes here. > > > > > > -- Jim Dixon (907) 479-4306 home (907) 474-7099 work **************************