Ya gotta luv it!!! PM -----Original Message----- From: Tim Romano To: [log in to unmask] Sent: 2006-Jan-12 7:26 AM Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA? An old English proverb: To euerie man his owne fart smells sweete. Tim Romano Robert Kibler wrote: > Well well well--I guess you are going to have to come to the ALA if this panel runs, to satiate that curiosity! For my part, I prefer to think of your (and Pound's) beaneries as sometimes capable of producing thoughts of a more aromatic kind, and the overall enterprise as investigating aesthetic and philosophical freedom rather than petrification--but if I step back from the enterprise even a little, I see your point. > Yet were I to step back too far, I probably would have to shoot myself, so instead, will gulp some coffee, prep for class, and continue to measure my works and days by the spoonful. Cheers, Robert K > > >The person of excellence understands what is moral. >The petty person understands what is profitable. > "Analects" IV.16, Confucius > >Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D. >English and Humanities >Director, Northern Plains Writing Project >229 Hartnett Hall West >Minot State University >500 University Avenue West >Minot, North Dakota 58701 >telephone: 701 858 3876 >e-mail: [log in to unmask] >fax: 701 858 3894 > >-----Original Message----- >From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer >Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 8:03 AM >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA? > >Bob, > Damn you, now you have made me curious. I'm getting too old for this >nonsense. Fucking beaneries and there resulting intestinal gas! So it is >"petrifying ideologies" ( and boy, we got em) that we are really talking >about? > >Charlie > >"...and the demand that everyone swallow it." -KULCHUR p.53 > > > >>From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]> >>Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine >><[log in to unmask]> >>Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 07:31:10 -0600 >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA? >> >>Well, Pound assuredly read in and of the medieval Islamic >>thinkers--specifically Avicenna and Averroes. Cavalcanti was also an avowed >>Averroist, and Pound's study of him assuredly brought Pound further within the >>pale of medieval Islamic thought. Ernst Renan and Etienne Gilson--both of >>whom Pound read and with whom he corresponded wrote about Islamic thought, and >>Renan wrote a lengthy thesis/dissertation and book on Averroism that is in the >>Pound collection in Austin (I need to get down there to see Pound's habitual >>underlinings in blue pencil. Stuff in the Beinecke too.). >>More specifically, the Averroist translation of and interpretation of >>Aristotle's "De Anima" corresponds in a general way to how Pound's combinant >>metaphysics and aesthetics operate--as a process, a forma mentis, a >>Ling--moving in and out of discernible form and reality, and likewise, in and >>out of the mind of both God and artist, thereby changing the character of >>created art, perceived reality, and the overall quality of mind possessed by >>both. As seen in the Cantos. >>That would be the general drift of it, at 7:30 in the morning. And Pound's son >>Omar wrote a book of translated Islamic poetry. Don't know if there is any >>link, but maybe. >> >> >>The person of excellence understands what is moral. >>The petty person understands what is profitable. >> "Analects" IV.16, Confucius >> >>Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D. >>English and Humanities >>Director, Northern Plains Writing Project >>229 Hartnett Hall West >>Minot State University >>500 University Avenue West >>Minot, North Dakota 58701 >>telephone: 701 858 3876 >>e-mail: [log in to unmask] >>fax: 701 858 3894 >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine >>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Charles Moyer >>Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2006 5:59 AM >>To: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA? >> >>Would you care to share any of your depth in this topic with those of us >>still semiconscious on this list who will have no opportunity to attend the >>conference and would not find it profitable to do so? >> >>Charles >> >>"Without stirring abroad >>One can know the whole world; >>Without looking out of the window >>One can see the way of heaven." >>TAO TE CHING (and this was said before Fox News) >> >> >> >> >> >>>From: Robert Kibler <[log in to unmask]> >>>Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine >>><[log in to unmask]> >>>Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:52:55 -0600 >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: Pound panel(s) at the ALA? >>> >>>I am certainly out here, and would love to participate in a panel concerning >>>Pound and Islam. I am deep in this topic now. If there are others so >>>interested, I would hope we could make a panel of the topic. Thanks Burt. >>>Robert >>> >>> >>>The person of excellence understands what is moral. >>>The petty person understands what is profitable. >>> "Analects" IV.16, Confucius >>> >>>Robert E. Kibler, Ph.D. >>>English and Humanities >>>Director, Northern Plains Writing Project >>>229 Hartnett Hall West >>>Minot State University >>>500 University Avenue West >>>Minot, North Dakota 58701 >>>telephone: 701 858 3876 >>>e-mail: [log in to unmask] >>>fax: 701 858 3894 >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine >>>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Burt Hatlen >>>Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 9:12 PM >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Pound panel(s) at the ALA? >>> >>>I was unable to attend the MLA this year, but I understand from Alec Marsh >>>that that there was some discussion of possible Pound Society panels at the >>>ALA conference in San Francisco, May25-28. For the past two years, Tim Redman >>>has taken >>>responsibility for panels at the ALA, but Alec reports that this year Tim >>>will >>>be in Europe at the tim e of the conference. It is my understanding the >>>Robert >>>Kibler raised the possibility of a panel on Pound and Islam. Robert, are you >>>out there? Is >>>this information correct? If so, is anyone else on this list interested in >>>such a panel? I would be interested in putting together a panel on Pound and >>>the poets of the San Francisco Renaissance. If you think that you might like >>>to join such a >>>panel, please send me a message to that effect ASAP. The deadline for program >>>listings is January 30. >>> >>>Burt Hatlen >>> >>> > >__________ NOD32 1.1363 (20060112) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com > > > > >