Dear Marie-Noelle, Here is a quote from The Cantos: ". . . Oh my England that free speech without free radio speech is as zero . . ." (LXXIV/p 426 in the 13th printing) Best, Margaret Fisher EPOUND-L automatic digest system wrote: >There are 3 messages totalling 132 lines in this issue. > >Topics of the day: > > 1. free speech (3) > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:57:12 -0600 >From: "Timothy P. Redman" <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: free speech > >His statements concerning free radio speech are not in the poetry, but >are by far the most interesting on the topic. Pound more than seventy >years ago advocated radio broadcasts of the meetings of Congress. > >His own indictment for treason is covered in Conrad Rushing's brilliant >article on the subject. Indirectly, the same problem came up when Bill >Clinton ran for President. > >Rushing cites the "mere words" precedent -- U.S. citizens cannot be >charged with treason for speaking their minds. > >Although his legal reasoning is impeccable, the site of free speech can >be called into question. If Pound broadcast from Radio Iowa, he would >not have been indicted. The fact that he broadcast from Radio Rome got >him into trouble. The "mere words" doctrine still holds, but post WWII >sentiment ran high. > >William Joyce, "Lord Haw Haw." was charged, convicted, and executed for >treason in England after WWII for his broadcasts from Germany. The fact >that he was not a British citizen did not deter the English. > >Bill Clinton was criticized severely for his protests against the >Vietnam War during the late sixties. Of course many protested. But >Clinton's protests were from Moscow. > >My advice -- go to Pound's prose. There's a lot there on your topic of >free speech. > >Cheers, > >Tim Redman > > >Marie-Noelle Little wrote: > > > > >>I am looking for some Pound poems that might deal directly or indirectly >>with the notion of free speech? >> >>Marie-Noelle Little >> >> >> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:10:12 -1000 >From: CENTRONE <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: free speech > >I read _Ezra Pound Speaks_--not cover to cover :). Would like to see the >transcripts of William Joyce's broadcasts. > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Timothy P. Redman" <[log in to unmask]> >To: <[log in to unmask]> >Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 2:57 PM >Subject: Re: free speech > > > > >>His statements concerning free radio speech are not in the poetry, but >>are by far the most interesting on the topic. Pound more than seventy >>years ago advocated radio broadcasts of the meetings of Congress. >> >>His own indictment for treason is covered in Conrad Rushing's brilliant >>article on the subject. Indirectly, the same problem came up when Bill >>Clinton ran for President. >> >>Rushing cites the "mere words" precedent -- U.S. citizens cannot be >>charged with treason for speaking their minds. >> >>Although his legal reasoning is impeccable, the site of free speech can >>be called into question. If Pound broadcast from Radio Iowa, he would >>not have been indicted. The fact that he broadcast from Radio Rome got >>him into trouble. The "mere words" doctrine still holds, but post WWII >>sentiment ran high. >> >>William Joyce, "Lord Haw Haw." was charged, convicted, and executed for >>treason in England after WWII for his broadcasts from Germany. The fact >>that he was not a British citizen did not deter the English. >> >>Bill Clinton was criticized severely for his protests against the >>Vietnam War during the late sixties. Of course many protested. But >>Clinton's protests were from Moscow. >> >>My advice -- go to Pound's prose. There's a lot there on your topic of >>free speech. >> >>Cheers, >> >>Tim Redman >> >> >>Marie-Noelle Little wrote: >> >> >> >> >>>I am looking for some Pound poems that might deal directly or indirectly >>>with the notion of free speech? >>> >>>Marie-Noelle Little >>> >>> >>> > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 03:06:43 +0100 >From: Dennis Witt <[log in to unmask]> >Subject: Re: free speech > >At 26.11.2005 02:10, CENTRONE wrote: > > >>I read _Ezra Pound Speaks_--not cover to cover :). Would like to see the >>transcripts of William Joyce's broadcasts. >> >> > >I don't think there are any, despite several recent monographs on >Joyce - or rather the Joyce *Trial*. There are, however, a few >recordings of some of his broadcasts available (remastered but still >in lousy quality), for example at Earthstation1.com. > >http://www.earthstation1.com/Merchant/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=E&Product_Code=TBOLHHCMCC&Category_Code=LHH > >------------------------------ > >End of EPOUND-L Digest - 16 Nov 2005 to 25 Nov 2005 (#2005-42) >************************************************************** > > > >