I also question that. Let's wait until tomorrow. ---------- >From: sylvester pollet <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Ashbery and Pound? >Date: Thu, Nov 27, 2003, 12:28 PM > > Is it kind to call Ashbery "a stale creampuff" on Thanksgiving? Bon > appetit! Sylvester > > At 2:09 PM +0900 11/27/03, Wayne Pounds wrote: >>I think this query deserves a better response. Being familiar with the >>writer's native culture and language, let me restate what I understand of the >>query. Then I'll try to respond, and I hope others will join me. >> >>>I am now reading Ashbery's poems, which puzzle me a lot. Did Pound >>>appreciate Ashbery or recognize him as a young poet from whom important work >>could be expected? Or was >he outside of Pound's interest? >> >>The answer to your first quest, I believe, is no. I think that by the time >>Ashbery's poetry began to appear in print, Pound had little interest in young >>poets. He thought he had done enough to recognize and encourage young talent >>during the three decades before WWII. During and after the war, he believed >>he had more important things to do. >> >>Nor do i think Pound would have appreciated Ashbery's work if he had seen it. >>In his early years in London and Paris, he appreciated surrealism as an >>avant-garde movement, but by the thirties he felt that surrealist art was >>"stale creampuffs" and anyone still doing it was merely recycling the >>contents of some ancestral trunk in the attic. >> >>That's all that comes to mind right now. Perhaps someone else could comment? >> >>Wayne Pounds >> >>Tim Romano wrote: >> >>> Yes, to a "wide, tepidly meandering" stream. >>> Tim Romano >>> >>> At 11/25/03 10:23 AM +0900, =?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCRU9KVT8uRnMbKEI=?= wrote: >>> >-Please give me some hints: >>> >I am now reading Ashbery's poems which puzzle me a lot. Did Pound >>> >appreciate, or expect, him? Or was he out of Pound's interest? Does >>> >he bring, or keep, American poetry and the English Poetry to some >>> >stream? >>> >