But you don't need to posit an ancient "you" in order to have license to explore those wider mythic implications, Burt. For Pound, a poet writing in the 20th century could be on equal terms with Ovid or Catullus. In the truest sense, the 'classical' is a quality to be found in the craft and in the vision, not a *temporal* attribute. Remember what Ford Maddox Ford said when accosted/interviewed by Pound in Italy--the interview where Ford impatiently replies "brush his teeth!" to Pound's question "What's the first thing an artist should do?" Real artists, Ford says, are *indistinguishable*. Tim Romano At 09:10 PM 8/16/03, Burt Hatlen wrote: >Of course, Tim is right, and I was creating a false problem: the "you" of >"Canzon: The Yearly Slain" is obviously Manning--Pound tells us in a >headnote that the poem was written in response to a poem by Manning, and I >should have taken this >statement as the answer to my question. I guess that I was intrigued by >the wider implications of the "yearly slain"--not only Kore, but also >Adonis and Osiris--and wanted to find a largely mystery here. > >Burt Hatlen > >[log in to unmask]> writes: > >Frederic Manning maybe. > >Tim Romano > > > >At 01:20 PM 8/14/03, Burt Hatlen wrote: > >>Listers, > >> > >>Here'a a question, born out of something a little more than idle > >>curiosity: In the first poem of Canzoni, "Canzon: The Yearly Slain," EP's > >>envoy reads as follows: "Be sped, my Canzon, through the bitter air! / To > >>him who speaketh words as fair as > >>these, / Say that I also know nthe "Yearly Slain" (CEP 134). Who is the > >>fellow-poet, that EP sees as the destined audience of his canzon? I've > >>checked Jackson, Witemeyer, and Grieve, but haven't found an answer in > >>their books on the early poetry. > >>My best guess is that he's sending the poem to Ovid: see the lines from > >>the Marlowe's translation of the Amores, as quoted in the ABC of Reading: > >>"And brydes from Memnon yeerly shall be slaine." But maybe I'm missing > >>some obvious reference to a > >>classical poet who wrote about the "Yearly Slain"? > >> > >>Burt Hatlen > >> > >> > >>__________ NOD32 1.483 (20030813) Information __________ > >> > >>This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. > >>http://www.nod32.com > > >__________ NOD32 1.486 (20030815) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 Antivirus System. >http://www.nod32.com