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How do we know that it wasn't your intent to kick the puck off the goalies pad?   I suspect that if you intentionally direct or deflect the puck and it goes in whether it's off the goalie or a defenseman, it's not a goal.  Any refs out there?
 
I watched that replay a few times too.  It looked to me like Lucas "might" have had "some" intentional influence on the direction of the puck but, as in the NFL, there certainly wasn't sufficient evidence to over-rule the call by the official on the ice.  It looked to me like his blade was changing angle at the time the puck struck it but there certainly wasn't enough evidence to show intent. 
 
The important thing is that the puck went in the net!  
 
None of this discussion really matters a hoot except that it's nice to think that the official made the right call!   And yes, it's fun to talk about the rules too I suppose!   
 
 
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: james acheson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 8:17 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Maine wins 3-2 in OT

I think that the NHL rule says that it si not a goal if there is a kicking motion TOWARD the net.  SO that if I kick a puck to a team mate from behind the net (intentionally direct the puck to a teammate from behind the net) and it bounces off the goalie's pad and in, this IS a goal in the NHL because I did not intentionally direct it toward the net, but it is not a goal in NCAA or USA/Olympics because I intentionally directed teh puck with my skate.

I did not see Lucas change the angle of his skate as he skated across teh front of the goal.  THis looked like it deflected off his skate and he did not intentionally direct it (in any direction)

But heck if we can take the OT goal against BC when Mike Motteau was hauled down in the face off dot a couple years ago, we can sure take a questionable goal.

 [log in to unmask] wrote:

The NCAA rule book says that a puck that is deflected off an attacking player and goes in to the net is a goal.  However, a few paragraphs later, it says that a player cannot intentionally deflect a puck into the net.  By contrast, the NHL rule book is explicitly that a puck deflected into the net by a skate is a goal, unless the attacking player deflects the puck with a "kicking motion."

So, the NCAA rules don't require a distinct kicking motion, just "intent" to deflect by the attacking player.  Did Lucas intentionally deflect the puck into the net?  Perhaps, but it's not as clearcut as the Fox NE announcers would have us believe.



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