The lines below from Charles Moyer are great. I rather object to the crude depiction of Pound as "pagan." He was way beyond that. He was in the company of the great souls (Dante, Shakespeare, even Whitman) who never denigrate real religion, while often disassociating themselves from the crudity and ignorance (and frequent evils) of the priest class. Pound was himself profoundly a true "priest" of the Truth, of the esoteric church Weston is talking about. Someone on this list has suggested that truth, capitalized or not, is rather passé. In my view that is a tired, passé opinion of people who have been too long anchored in degenerate modernism.) As all such great people Pound suffered for his stance. Whitman was alone and disdained at the end, Pound was wracked, then alone, then disdained at the end by a world which had roared past him. The model for all these people was the Christus, although many of them wanted to deny it because by, say, 1910 (the year Joyce completed Portrait); the whole exoteric Church was pretty awful in a lot of places, the unknown saints always excepted. Could go on but won't. Tom White > From: charles moyer <[log in to unmask]> > Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine > <[log in to unmask]> > Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 16:16:34 -0500 > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: Cantgo ergo possum physic > > "There is a stream of tradition, running as it were underground, which > from time to time rises to the surface, only to be relentlessly > suppressed." -Weston (1913). > And that's what I like about Ezra. He did not stop dipping into that > stream for his whole lifetime and, as a result, exposed the historical > blackout. And he took the blows for it like a man. He didn't run for cover > behind some unassailable institutionalized reward-and-punishment system of > the lily-livered.