(sorry to Sara who's getting this twice - stupid reply button puts her e-mail down instead of the hockey-l one and forgot to change it first time around) --- You wrote: Now a few comments on the Cornell fans. They can be obnoxious can't they? As some of you may already know, I don't like the "trained dogs" (or in the case of Cornell , trained bears) types of group cheering. I hate cheers that are aimed at the opponent. I think you should cheer for your own team and encourage them, not ridicule the opposition. I guess I am too logical. When I hear "sieve", I think, why then haven't you scored more if he is so bad? When I hear "it's all your fault", I think, so your guy isn't talented and had nothing to do with it. I think the other team deserves respect and consideration. (Thus I don't like the newspaper thing and yelling "sucks" all the time.) --- end of quote --- I have more problem with the individual stuff than the group stuff, especially when directed at opposing fans. Chanting "ugly parents" like they do at Yost or yelling "sucks" in unison when the announcer names the opposing players is one thing, but walking up to someone in the corridors and telling them "You suck" is something entirely different. Chants should be given much more leeway than individual hecklers, IMO. Cornell fans are ok in my book. Yeah it ticks me off when they come to Thompson, but more because they can out cheer us in our own building than because of anything they actually say. Any chant that doesn't involve profanity, and sucks does not count as a profane word to me anyway, or racial/sexual/ethnical slurs is fine by me. I would be extremely happy if Dartmouth's crowds at Thompson got even a fraction as rowdy and united as the Cornell fans. And from all indications, Cornell fans leave it on the ice. I ran into a guy from the eLynah message board at the Centrum during one of the intermissions, and he invited me to sit with the Cornell people for the remainder of the game. For me it was a great time, even though Cornell lost and I was rooting for them over UNH as the Ivy League bond takes precedent over geographical proximity (not to mention the fact that UNH fans outnumbered them 7-1 at least). Plus I got to meet some really cool people, and actually got to take part in some cheers for a change, been a long time since I've been in a crowd who got actively involved. Maybe the Cornell crowd wasn't at their worst since it wasn't in Lynah itself, but they were a heckuva lot less offensive than anything I've heard out of Yost or a lot of other arenas. Plus you have to admit their "UHN" chant was classic.