>From: charles moyer <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine > <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted? >Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 09:22:37 -0800 > >Perhaps I am being naive myself, but I thought it more often the practice >of >reappraising uncertainty after a solid course in the divine. > I'd like a second opinion on the site. BTW Ez's quotes are in there >and >Hitler's too. > >---------- > >From: Jesse Huisken <[log in to unmask]> > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted? > >Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 2:10 PM > > > > > I would absolutely love to drop this subject, but incase there was some > > misunderstanding I would not like to advance a pogrom against believers. > > My email suggested that we question our own beliefs, and engage with > > some sort of intellectual restlessness. It was this sense of experiment > > that allowed Pound to broaden the rang of spiritual figures with which > > to populate the Cantos. One can return reapraise the divine after one > > has taken a solid course in uncertainty. The web site below seemed to me > > to be nothing if not naive. > > > > > > On Thursday, March 21, 2002, at 06:07 PM, charles moyer wrote: > > > >> James, Dan and all, > >> I think you may want to reassess your opinion of atheists if you > >> take > >> some time to examine this site: > >> > >> http://www.positiveatheism.org/index.shtml > >> > >> But see if you can find among these atheists any who would wish to > >> support > >> a pogrom against the "believers", an argument no doubt but more often > >> than > >> not a defensive one. But I think you may be surprised to see in whose > >> company you will find yourself. > >> And Dan, I think Hitler was a Roman Catholic, granted not a very > >> good > >> one, but it was the Catholic party's vote which put him and the Nazis >in > >> power in the Reichstag in 1933. > >> How much rarer and precious does it make that 1%? > >> > >> Charles > >> > >> ---------- > >>> From: Stoner James <[log in to unmask]> > >>> To: [log in to unmask] > >>> Subject: Re: Take atheism for granted. > >>> Date: Thu, Mar 21, 2002, 11:29 AM > >>> > >> > >>> Dan: > >>> > >>> You said: Doesn't it frighten you that about 99% of this planet's > >>> denizens are (generally) mindless adherents of one formal religious > >>> sect > >>> or another? > >>> > >>> I'm not certain why such a thing should frighten me (us.) As an > >>> atheist, you are also closed off to the possibility of a theistic > >>> alternative. As an agnostic, it is both closed mindedness and > >>> intolerance that I most fear. Atheist, Muslim, Jew, Christian -- its > >>> those among them that are closed minded and intolerant (more > >>> appropriately referred to as fundamentalist) that scare me. They >scare > >>> me because they want to make everyone else like them. The long for >the > >>> nostalgic notion of their own grand narrative being imposed and >coerced > >>> upon others. Thank God (oops) the atheists haven't organized, but > >>> there are the fundamentalists among them; they would annialate theists > >>> if they had the chance. > >>> > >>> Most of us ARE mindless adherents to something or another. Because we > >>> use language, and it is taken so much for granted, it makes it > >>> necessarily so. > >>> > >>> $.02 > >>> > >>> __________________________________________________ > >>> Do You Yahoo!? > >>> Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy AwardsÆ > >>> http://movies.yahoo.com/ > >> "a solid course in the divine" ... ???? _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com