>From: Daniel Pearlman <[log in to unmask]> >Reply-To: - Ezra Pound discussion list of the University of Maine > <[log in to unmask]> >To: [log in to unmask] >Subject: Re: internet petition >Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:57:08 -0500 > >Most of y'all will recognize that, not surprisingly, the Pound list >has become the refuge and vomitorium of the Jew-hating dregs >of academia. >==Dan > >At 08:04 AM 03/20/2002 -0800, you wrote: >>Don't worry, Dan, the cure for all our liberal doubts is just around the >>corner. We're about to get "10", yes, "10" weeks of old Yiddish "sti(u:)k" >>theatre recordings on NPR. OI! So I'm never goingk to laugh zo hard in all >>my life? >> >>---------- >> >From: Daniel Pearlman <[log in to unmask]> >> >To: [log in to unmask] >> >Subject: Re: internet petition >> >Date: Tue, Mar 19, 2002, 11:29 PM >> > >> >> > Carroll and Sarab make very nice twins, don't they? >> > Each equally objective and balanced in their totally >> > unbiased readings of history? >> > ==Dan >> > >> > At 10:00 PM 03/19/2002 -0600, you wrote: >> >>Sarab Nihal Singh wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I would prefer to go to the root cause of this chronic problem >>mentioned in >> >> > Bob's email and sign a petition against Prophet Mohamed for his war >>crimes >> >> > against humanity. He has caused the most ideological and ethnic >> >> cleansing in >> >> > known history. The psychotic freaks (Aurangzeb, Ghazni, et al) in >>his >> >> > tradition have done worst damage than Israel or US can do in all of >>Islam's >> >> > pathetic, enslaved and oppressive colonies. >> >> > >> >> >> >>I did not respond to Bob's email because at least once before on this >> >>list he has confused Jews witrh Zionists -- and that is unacceptable >>for >> >>several reasons. First, though of secondary concern, is that a group of >> >>Pound lovers (which I assume most of us are) should be quite careful >> >>around the subject of anti-semitism But of greater, and more >>politically >> >>relevant concern, is that the chief, perhaps the _only_ serious weapon >> >>in the hands of criminal Zionism (the phrase is really, now, redundant) >> >>is precisely the identification of anti-zionism with anti-semitism. >> >>Without this protection, Israel would stand revealed clearly to all for >> >>what it is and has been -- a criminal state, an ally of tyrannical and >> >>racist regimes around the world (e.g., it was, next to the United >> >>States, the warmest friend of apartheid South Africa, and it was the >> >>conduit for a good deal of U.S. aid to the murderous thugs known as >> >>Contras in Nicaragua). >> >> >> >>Israel's very existence is a crime, and the bloodshed now going on in >> >>Palestine is _wholly_ the fault of the Israeli state. Israeli terrorism >> >>(the state was born in terrorism and has been a perpetrator of >>terrorism >> >>fever since) is not the only but it is a major element in the >>conditions >> >>that have given Al Quaida terrorists the popular support (or illusion >>of >> >>popular support) that any terrorist organization needs, to maintain its >> >>morale if for no other reason: men who could have relatively peaceful >> >>and prosperous lives do not lightly throw away those lives as did the >> >>perpetrators of 9/11. >> >> >> >>As for Islam and Muhamed. The post I am responding to is ridiculous, >>but >> >>I'll just focus on a couple of points here. >> >> >> >>First of all, one might say that Islam was virtually the inventor of >> >>religious tolerance, and for a thousand years while Jews were being >> >>persecuted in Europe the Islamic countries provided a place of refuge >> >>not only for Jews but for "hetetical" Christians. Most of whatever >> >>culture medieval Europe possessed they owed to the Arabs and Islamic >> >>culture. (Arabic numbers came from India, but it was the Arabs who >> >>introduced them to europe.) >> >> >> >>Secondly, for 50 years the United States has pursued an unrelenting >> >>savagery (often using "fundamentalist Muslims as its tool) against >>every >> >>democratic or secular movement in the Middle East and South Asia. It >>was >> >>the U.S. that destroyed Iran's best hope for democracy, Mossedegh. It >> >>was the U.S., under Carter, that deliberately interfered in Afghanistan >> >>for no other reason that to provoke Soviet interference, and it was the >> >>U.S. that was responsible for the virtual wiping out of all secular or >> >>democratic forces in Afghanistan. >> >> >> >>And it is the U.S. and Israel that have been the unrelenting foes of >>any >> >>secular left forces among the Palestinians and have deliberately and >> >>with consciously bloody intent encouraged the flourishing of religious >> >>fanaticism among the Palestinians. >> >> >> >>Freedom for the Palestinians will not by itself bring peace to the >> >>middle east, but nothing else will either until the rogue state of >> >>Israel is brought under control. >> >> >> >>Carrol Cox >> > >> > Dan Pearlman's home page: >> > http://pages.zdnet.com/danpearl/danpearlman/ >> > >> > My new fiction collection, THE BEST-KNOWN MAN IN THE WORLD AND OTHER >> > MISFITS, may be ordered online at http://www.aardwolfpress.com/ >> > "Perfectly-crafted gems": Jack Dann, Nebula & World Fantasy Award >>winner >> > >> > Director, Council for the Literature of the Fantastic: >> > http://www.uri.edu/artsci/english/clf/ >> > >> > OFFICE: >> > Department of English >> > University of Rhode Island >> > Kingston, RI 02881 >> > Tel.: 401 874-4659 >> > Fax: (253) 681-8518 >> > email: [log in to unmask] > >Dan Pearlman's home page: >http://pages.zdnet.com/danpearl/danpearlman/ > >My new fiction collection, THE BEST-KNOWN MAN IN THE WORLD AND OTHER >MISFITS, may be ordered online at http://www.aardwolfpress.com/ >"Perfectly-crafted gems": Jack Dann, Nebula & World Fantasy Award winner > >Director, Council for the Literature of the Fantastic: >http://www.uri.edu/artsci/english/clf/ > >OFFICE: >Department of English >University of Rhode Island >Kingston, RI 02881 >Tel.: 401 874-4659 >Fax: (253) 681-8518 >email: [log in to unmask] but dammitall, Dan, some of my best friends are fascists _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com