>Did anyone happen to catch Cap Rader (Yuck! What an awful announcer and That pair of announcers was awful. I winced, listening to them. Cap has been (sort of) OK when I've heard him in past seasons, but this pair stunk up WBA. >soooo pro BU!) during the UNH / BU game on Sunday night say that they didn't >have Goal Judges until sometime into the second period. What's up with that? >Are Goal Judges just a suggestion of the NCAA and Hockey East? The NCAA rules state there "should be" off-ice officials such as time- keeper, official scorer and goal judges. The rules also define the goal judge job description and that it's the on-ice referee that makes the final decision on any goal. HEA and Maine, I believe, want people with on-ice refereeing experience as goal judges, and that's always the case at the Alfond (for the people I recognize). Perhaps someone in the know (we have plenty listening on this list!) could say something more definitive (or more correct!). >Aren't they kinda important? Only when they light their lamp when the puck has NOT gone in the net! I "goal judged" for youth hockey and high school games (many years ago) for a few years. In my experience, if the on-ice officials are in the same time zone, the goal judge is irrelevant (but I'm sure that varies from referee to referee). Out of several dozens of games, I had substantial information (IMHO) perhaps only a dozen times, and was allowed to pass it on to the referee only twice. That there isn't a standard way for the goal judge to signal or pass information to a referee, should be a good hint for the question. Finally and perhaps most importantly, I've *never* seen a goal called because the red light went on. Never. (And that's a good thing!) :-) cheers, wayne Wayne T. Smith [log in to unmask] Old Town Landing The College Hockey lists: Hockey-L and Hockey3 at http://lists.Maine.edu/ P.S. Arny: Could you send me a note offline, please?