In a message dated 08/03/2001 3:59:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: << Somehow I was lucky enough to miss Tim Bray's original posting. Your answer is good, but I think not really required. If Tim expects the Greek heroes to be middle class Americans, he should probably just go back to reading the New York Times, if he can handle it. Or if he really wants to make decisions about Homer he should take the time and put out the effort to read the Iliad in Greek. Discussions regarding Homer in translations belong in undergraduate literature surveys. >> dirk,. you must trip over your feet a lot... joe brennan...